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Rumor: Ilya Kovalchuk to the Rangers?



untitled Rumor: Ilya Kovalchuk to the Rangers?

This is a rumor from a pretty reliable source who has correctly predicted many past trades and free agent signings. Take it with a grain of salt, but it sounds pretty realistic and we all know the Rangers are more than willing to bring out the checkbook to bring big name stars to the Garden.

To the Rangers: Ilya Kovalchuk and potentially low round draft choices

To the Thrashers: Brandon Dubinsky, Michal Rozsival, Ryan McDonaugh OR Bobby Sanquinetti, Christopher Higgins, 2010 1st Round Draft Pick, 2011 1st Round Draft Pick, 2011 2nd Round Draft Pick.


Moves post-trade: Wade Redden is sent down to Hartford to make salary room.

Notes: Dishing off Rozsival and sending Redden down to the AHL will make room for Kovalchuk in the salary department. The Rangers have great depth at defense with their young players they already have and prospects they having coming up so the defense will be fine.

The only question will be at center since Dubinsky is/was supposed to be the #1 center. They do have Derek Stepan and Chris Kreider coming up who have both been very impressive at the World Juniors.

So they are basically giving up Dubinsky, Higgins, and some draft picks for Ilya Kovalchuk? Is it worth it?

26 Responses to “Rumor: Ilya Kovalchuk to the Rangers?”

  1. dbmaven says:

    On a team that’s already void of top-line centers, do you really think the Rangers are going to give up Dubinsky – leaving Drury, Christensen, Anisimov and Boyle??

    And 3 draft picks – 2 of them 1st Round?? In the salary cap era, no sane GM gives up those kinds of picks…..

    Oh……wait……we’re talking Glen Sather here…..please ignore previous comment…. ;-)

  2. anthony says:

    any way we get this done without giving up dubi, maybe stall or anisimov maybe another pick

  3. HF says:

    straight from HFboards, interesting.

  4. mike says:

    enough with this stupid love for dubi.He is going to be a 20 goal scorer in the nhl.Everyone keeps waiting for him to be a number one center and its never going to happen.A 1st line center is datsyuk,thorton,crosby,malkin, and dubi will never be half as good as them

  5. Dan says:

    At HF:

    Isn’t that how rumors work moron?

    One person hears it and spreads it….thus being a rumor.

  6. Mike says:

    As a Ranger fan i would love this deal. i just wouldent like giving up Brandon Dubinsky.

  7. Fuck you says:

    Anyone who thiks this is a good trade for the Rangers is retarded. You can’t give up 2 #1’s for a potential rental player.

  8. Greg says:

    They would most likely sign him to a long term deal and give him any $ amount he wants.

    And keep Redden Down in the A permanetly

  9. Confused says:

    From a source? You actually have sources on this site? What rumos have they ever gotten right?

  10. Gary says:

    I’m a big Kovalchuk fan, but that price is way too steep. Hopefully, this is just a rumor…

  11. drglas says:

    I don’t know about this. While the Rangers can afford to get rid of the depth at defense, they lack the depth at center to get rid of Dubinsky. Regardless of what you think, he is the Rangers top center – like it or not. He’s a talented young player who the Rangers would be foolish to give up on. Stepan and Krieder are not ready for the NHL yet – they’re probably still 2 years out. Also, losing two 1st round picks is very unappealing, especially with the success of the Rangers recent picks.

    All that said, I love Ilya Kovalchuk, but I don’t think this price tag is quite worth it. Winning now is great, but this deal essentially handcuffs the Rangers next few seasons. I don’t want to see them revert to trying to buy success. They need to grow talent from the draft up.

  12. stuart says:

    I think this is a good deal.. the rangers have an overstock at center.. and anyway you slice it we arent gona win the cup soon with the players we have lost and contracts we have signed!! we need a winger.. but giving up 2 first round draft picks.. i dont know i could deal with one for next year.. but maybe its ok with our young kids in stephen bourque and mcdonough coming up!!!! i like it the fact that redden gets sent down. maybe he will just disapsear?? not a bad trade at all.. i think its quite good minus. a dman or a draft pick here or there!

  13. stuart says:

    If you think about it kovalchuck is worth 3 players..
    giving up two dfensman. and 2 picks plus dubinsky is too much!
    either keeping a defensmen and dubinsky yes, or keeping a draft pick for getting another star. is crucial.. but thats too much for one star.. plus his enormous salary cap hit! try giving up much less. trade two players up front for him..

    I would love to see it happen and it could but hopefully not at too much expense. We could build this team around gabroik, kovalchuk, lundqvist.,…..

  14. stuart says:

    giving up 4 players and picks is enough…..! especially 3 stars and a defensman. in draft picks! giving up dubi.. and two draft picks plus one defensman either rosival or a youngster one! IS ENOUGH OR TWO DEFENSMEN INCLUDING ROSIVAL AND DUBINSKY AND HIGGENS AND ONE DRAFT PICK WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE..

  15. stuart says:

    HIGGENS AND ROSIVAL CAN GO FOR KOVALCHUK. HATE TO LOSE DUBI… BUT IT FOR THE OVERALL BETTER OF THE TEAM. THAT WAY DRURY CAN MOVE UO\PTO SECOND LINE WITH AVERY AND CALLHAN.

    i THINK THE RANGERS SHOULD DO IT AS LONG AS THEY DONT GIVE UP ANYONE ELSE OF TWO FIRST ROUND PICKS ONE WOULD BE OK. BUT SECOND ROUND PICKS INSTEAD OF A FIRST ROUNDER.!

    lETS GO RANGERS!

  16. Todd says:

    I would go with option 1 in a heartbeat (Brandon Dubinsky, Michal Rozsival, Ryan McDonaugh) as long as we can lock him up long term. Dubi’s a nice player but not Kovi quality, Rozsival? Who cares?, & McDonaugh we have never even seen play, besides we stole him from Montreal anyway. As far as missing a Center It doesn’t really matter we’ll probably pick one up over the summer. I think this move is more for the long term, this season is as good as over anyway.

  17. Webs says:

    This is way to much. And look you guys can hate on Dubi as much as you want but he’s been one of the best rangers out there since he came back from injury. and dont give me the bs that oh we have stepan and whoever else because theyve never played on this level and who knows if they will succeed. and to mike let me just say this not every team can have a crosby or a malkin or a thornton besides a 1st line center isnt necessarily any better than 20 goals a season a 1st line center is a guy that can handle the line, win faceoffs, and give the wingers openings all of which dubinsky has don and can do. So dont hate so much on all the players, im sure you could do such a better job

  18. dore33 says:

    if this is real you do it RIGHT NOW!
    Dubinsky will NEVER be as good as Kovy! He is Ovechkin Lite! The guy can win games by himself and with him and Gaborik together they have a 1/2 punch that can match any team in the league. Also when you can get Redden and Rosival off the roster, what could be better. Slats do it now!!

  19. spanman says:

    Any chance you have at getting a generational talent you take it! Here’s the deal … you are giving up a hell of a lot … but you have know idea what those draft picks will become. And judging by Hugh Jessimans success (SCOFF) we all know how good of a drafter Sather is. If this has any ounce of truth to it and the Rangers dont pull the trigger then they would be stupid! Dubinsky, although i love the kid, is a replaceable commodity. There are tons of C’s out there that can post 40-50 points a season.

    It might not be a move that helps us out now … cuz even with Kovi i’m not sure they have enough to win a cup … but it does a lot of good for the future.
    For one it unloads Rozi’s salary, which i think we can all agree is a waste of money. It gives us that second star which any team with any asperations of winning a cup needs. Crosby/Malkin, Ovechkin/Backstrom/Semin, Kane/Toewes/Hossa, Datsyuk/Zetterberg, Heatley/Thornton … any team that has any shot MUST have at least 2 big guns. Gabby scored 25% of all the Rangers goals … if you shut him down you shut the Rangers down 9 times out of 10. But you can’t concentrate on shutting down Gabby if Kovie is on the other wing.

    Bottom line, this deal would be tremendous and anyone who thinks otherwise just isn’t looking at the big picture.

  20. drglas says:

    Yes, it would be wonderful to have Gaborik and Kovalchuk on the same line. But does this really address the Rangers biggest issue, which is scoring DEPTH? No, it doesn’t – it just puts them farther in the hole.

    Okay, Higgins has struggled to find the back of the net. But you’re still losing two starting forwards and replacing them with one. I’d love to say the Rangers would automatically be a better offensive team with Kovalchuk, and that might be true for the first line. But what about the rest of the team?

    The Rangers need to be targeting talented forwards to create depth in the lineup. If they were getting 2 or 3 players with a scoring touch, this deal might be worth it. But you’re sacrificing the little depth that already exists, plus the future that can be had with the picks with this trade.

    And yeah, the Jessiman draft choice was a bust. But that was in 2003. Since then, they’ve taken: Dubinsky, Callahan, Staal, Sanguinetti, Anisimov, Cherepanov (RIP), Del Zotto, Stepan, Grachev, Kundratek, Kreider, Werek, Bourque. Not bad.

  21. ryan says:

    if this happens i think the Rangers will get deep into the playoffs. who cares about dubinsky why does everyone love him he is not producing, hes supposed to be scoring this was supposed to be his big year. ill take kovalchuck over dubinsky n higgins anyday of the week.

  22. Gary says:

    I think that the Rangers can ship out Rozzie at the deadline, send Wade Redden down to the Wolfpack (over the summer) and land Kolvachuck to a monster contract July 1

  23. scottie p says:

    yeah this might make sense if he wanted to go to another losing team. winners dont wanna play hockey in new york. actually, nobody does. he will be in chicago and have his name on the cup. sandos NY

  24. logic says:

    It has been proven in any sport that 3 roleplayers for the HOF talent is always worth it. No one is untouchable on this team except Gaborik and Lundquist.

  25. What?! says:

    Depth at defense?! Depth at center?! What team are u guys watching?! The only position we have any depth at is wing, which is why this move would be retarded. We don’t need another wing and we certainly don’t have the money to afford both Gaborik and Kovalchuk on long term deals. What we need is a top line center and if we’re gonna give up Dubi then that should be what we’re giving him up for. A player like Staal from Carolina would work very well. The Hurricanes are in last place and he is their highest paid player with only 2 years left on his deal. If not him then we need a different center such as Lecavalier or someone
    of that caliber. Kovalchuk is simply a bad move regardless of what we give up.

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